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LCronkite
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« on: September 29, 2006, 09:28:46 PM »

Well not really, but I have an idea and I am wondering if there is away that I can also make videos available for downloading to iTunes for use on the computer or iPod.
I recently acquired the new 80GB 5G iPod (actually two of them, one for me and one for my wife - it was our anniversary).
I am in the process of converting 70 Historical Bus videos to QuickTime using HandBrake (a real no brainer application). I presently have these videos for sale on DVD through reddenarchives.com but I would like to make them available also as a downloadable video.
Before I go too far converting these videos to QuickTime, I wonder if anyone has any thoughts on whether these videos need to be compressed further (each one is close to 2 hours long and about 1GB) and what is the best way to make them available for download?
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2006, 06:17:26 PM »

Interesting Larry, Welcome to iPod ownership -- I have a few previous-5th-gen ipods in the family, and I can say that I'm a bit envious of your new toys (maybe Santa will tolerate a few more iPods under the tree this year).

Your question has a lot to do with issues of Transcoding -- that is taking origional content and repurposing it for different consumption points.  If you've noticed, Apple has recently "upgraded" their default consumption format from 320x200 to 640x480.  This gives a higer quality video expereince, and increases the video data file size also (not necessarily a 2x increase). 

Also -- If you've been playing with Ripping DVDs and moving the content to iPods, you may have noticed some interesting file size issues.  For example, a 120minute movie at DVD quality (.VOB) cane be anywhere from 1.75Gb to 3GB depending on compressability and quality of the movie.  Using Handbrake (if I rememebr right) re-compresses or re-transcodes the video into something more suitable for the iPod and probably reduces the file size by 1/2 at best.  Now, if you play back the DVD and the iPod video on a TV, there would be a noticeable degradation of the iPod video content -- yet if you play it back on the iPod's screen, it's quite nice.

I dont think the tools or resources are there just yet for independant video producers to sell their content (iTunes) as easy as it is for normal "hard goods" sales (DVD's).  Hmmm ..

So there's a few questions that you might want to ask:

1) Who is the target market for your "downloadable" videos? How will they consume them?
2) how do you intend to charge for them and then make them available to folks?
3) Do you intend to host your own Digital Media content site?

I dont know how much some hosted websites charge for downloading content, but you can probably see that if you have 10 videos on your website at 1G ea, and you had 500 people a month DL'ing all your videos, it would get into the terabyes of data transfer (which there is probably an associated cost).

Also -- If you put your content in Quicktime format, most folks should be able to see the content just fine as long as they are Windows or Mac users.  There are other competing video formats out there too (Divx, WMV, etc) that your customers may prefer.  And this means that if you wish to meet that demand, you'd have to transcode each source video into 3-5 formats -- that's a lot of processing time, storage space, and transmit time.

I dont know if there would ever be an opportunity for a specific media producer like yourself would be able to place content into iTunes as a "independant video producer"  and let them handle all the heavy lifting (transcoding, commerce, DRM, etc) for a fee of course.  I'm sure that's coming, but I dont know how soon.

If you look at what some folks are doing with VideoPodcasts, they are creating content and sending it out to the public.  Some are using an advertizing model to get paid, and some are doing it on a subscription basis.  Some are using this format as a teaser to sell the real content (think of an "infomercial" format).

In any event, it's a good excuse to start playing with iMovie, Final Cut Express, or even FCP to start working on creating content -- then use QT or like tools to get your content into H.264 for distribution and compression.

Chris Waldrip (CNN?) may be a better source for this question.

There is a good podcast on Digital Video Production ( http://www.d...ionbuzz.com/ ) that you might want to subsribe to and listen in on..

Let us know how your project moves along ..

Mike

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LCronkite
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2006, 06:35:20 PM »

Mike
Thanks for your comments.
I have noticed the degradation of quality that you mentioned using HandBrake and that the degradation is not as noticable on the iPod. Yes all of the videos are running close to 1 GB in size.
I doubt that my audience is that great - not too many people are interested in old buses!
If I proceed with this it will probably be on a subscription basis of some sort.
I'm more or less stuck with the original VHS format of the movies and the resulting transporting over to DVD through iMovie.
Well Michael just walked in.
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