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« on: December 22, 2005, 11:49:54 PM »

okay, so we have a new forum now and I can't recall if this was discussed on our old OC, so I'm asking the membership now:
I have a turntable with cables, an imac G5 (pre-cyclops) and even an external 52X CD burner (from previous system) with Roxio Toast Titanium 5 (had it before I went to OSX). i also have a cable that converts the two audio lines into a single audio jack (headphones style). Now what do I need to do in order to burn LPs to CDs? I kinda figured I would just plug this into the hole in the back of my imac and turn on the table, launch roxio (spin doctor) and burn baby burn. I have been too scared to try (been having computer issues and busy unpacking), but I would like advice from someone who has burned LPs successfully.
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2005, 11:18:49 AM »

I believe Roxio has a tutorial in their knowledge base, but it  maybe too general for your purposes. I'd like to see a full-detailed step-by-step on this as well.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2006, 01:47:32 PM »

This from the Small Dog newsletter:

How-to Convert Tapes or LPs to CD
by Ed Shepard ([email protected])

Back in 1992, I bought an old Jimi Hendrix tape called "Rare 
Hendrix," from a pawn shop in Rapid City, South Dakota. It contains 
some of the best Hendrix I've ever heard. That tape has permanently 
influenced my taste in music. However, the songs on the tape really 
are rare - the only other place I've seen the songs listed were on 
rare and expensive British import LPs. I've always been worried about 
the tape breaking again (it already broke once) or losing it forever. 
I finally decided to digitize the tape and convert it into a CD.

We get many questions about how to do this (and it was our most 
requested demo in our store), so I will outline the process.

First, you need a combination of hardware and software to perform the 
transfer. The hardware is used to interface the stereo with the 
computer, and the software is used to record and process the 
digitized audio on the computer. Here is the equipment I used:

- Stereo with tape deck

- Belkin 3.5mm Stereo Y Adapter - two RCA plugs on one end, one 1/8" 
headphone jack on the other.
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- Griffin iMic 2
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- 12" Powerbook (any computer running OS 10.2 or higher with USB 
ports will work)

- Soundtrack Pro (though other programs can be used to digitize 
audio, which I discuss)

My stereo has a pair of RCA outputs. These are very common - most 
televisions, receivers, phonographs, and boom boxes have them. RCA 
outputs are the two round ports on the back of the stereo, generally 
color-coded red and white. I plugged the Belkin Y-audio cable into 
the RCA ports, and then plugged the 1/8" headphone jack on the other 
end of the cable into the iMic. The iMic then plugs into the 
computer's USB port.

I don't recommend plugging a cable from the stereo directly into your 
computers mic jack, because the straight connection does not have 
enough power to deliver a quality signal. The iMic resolves this issue.

Once the iMic is plugged in, you'll want to turn on your computer and 
then launch System Preferences. Find the System Preferences as the 
fourth option under the blue Apple in the upper left corner of your 
computer screen. Click on Sound, then select the Input menu. Under 
Input, you should select "iMic," and then make sure the input volume 
is turned 3/4 of the way up. If the iMic is not listed under sound 
input, restart your computer and repeat.

Once the iMic is set up as your audio input, you'll need to launch 
the software application that will be recording the music. The iMic 
comes with a handy program called "Final Vinyl 2.0" that makes 
recording the audio very easy. I recommend using this program to 
record your tapes and records to your computer's hard drive. You can 
also record the audio into Garageband, Quicktime Pro, etc. For "Rare 
Hendrix" I chose to record into Soundtrack Pro, which is very fast 
and responsive.

Here's how to set up your favorite audio app for digitizing your 
tapes and records. First, in the audio application's Preferences, 
make sure the iMic is set as the audio input. You already did this in 
the computer's system preferences, but it's important to make sure 
the application you're working in recognizes the iMic.

Now, do a test. With everything connected, press "play" on the tape 
player, or put the needle on the record. You should be able to see 
and hear the audio playing through your audio application. You may 
have to turn the volume on the stereo up or down to make sure the 
audio is not inaudible, or distorted. Once you are satisfied with the 
audio levels, you can click "record" on the computer, to begin 
digitizing your audio files. Again, if you are using Final Vinyl, you 
only have to click one button to begin recording.

I let the computer capture side one and side two of "Rare Hendrix," 
before going back and manually cutting and dividing the tracks. I 
then exported each track as an AIFF file. The exported AIFF files 
will be dragged & dropped into iTunes, where they'll be burned to CD. 
Now, I have digital copies of my favorite tape.

This can take a while - it all records in real time. Final Vinyl 
makes the recording very easy. There are a number of excellent 
programs to help with the digitizing and naming of the audio. The 
best is CD Spin Doctor, part of the Roxio Toast and Boom Box software 
packages. See this here:

Roxio Boom Box
http://www.s...27/atkibbles

Roxio Toast 7 Titanium CDR Software
http://www.s...37/atkibbles

It works great. Now I've got Rare Hendrix is playing out of my iPod, 
and if the iPod is lost, I'll have it backed up in digital perfection 
on the computer's hard drive.

Have fun digitizing your tapes and LPs!

Everything that you need in a bundle!

Bundle with 15-inch PowerBook G4:
PowerBook 15in G4/1.5GHz 512/80/combo/AP/BT with iMic, Boom Box and 
Cable - $1469

To order: http://www.s...15/atkibbles

Bundle without the computer:
Griffin iMic, Roxio Boom Box and Belkin cable - $79

To order: http://www.s...17/atkibbles
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2006, 07:38:49 PM »

Thanks for posting this, now I need to go out and buy and iMic!
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2006, 11:24:38 PM »

okay, so we have a new forum now and I can't recall if this was discussed on our old OC, so I'm asking the membership now:
I have a turntable with cables, an imac G5 (pre-cyclops) and even an external 52X CD burner (from previous system) with Roxio Toast Titanium 5 (had it before I went to OSX). i also have a cable that converts the two audio lines into a single audio jack (headphones style). Now what do I need to do in order to burn LPs to CDs? I kinda figured I would just plug this into the hole in the back of my imac and turn on the table, launch roxio (spin doctor) and burn baby burn. I have been too scared to try (been having computer issues and busy unpacking), but I would like advice from someone who has burned LPs successfully.
thanks,

Martha,
I've been doing this for a long time. Copy your phonograph records through an amp that all of us used to have onto a video tape (audio only). You now have a modern signal that's easy to get into a mac. Video tape records a high quality signal.
John
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2006, 12:09:06 AM »

Wow, I'd forgotten about using video tape for music.

Back in the late-80's I had a friend who'd record hours of music onto Beta tape. It was stereo (or at least Hi-Fi) and really good quality (better than what you could get with VHS at that time). And it was great for background music during parties. Just hit play and let it go.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2006, 12:10:18 AM »

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Martha,
I've been doing this for a long time. Copy your phonograph records through an amp that all of us used to have onto a video tape (audio only). You now have a modern signal that's easy to get into a mac. Video tape records a high quality signal.
John

Excellent advice, John -- Now, if the VCR deck (or camcorder) you are copying to has a FIREWIRE PORT (most "digicams" do) you can then pull it into the mac digitally and not have to go through another generation of analog conversion.  Saves on the quality of the transfer.

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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2006, 04:34:59 PM »

Okay folks, I've ordered a Griffin iMic and will let you all know how it goes when it arrives!
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2006, 08:45:01 PM »

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Martha,
I've been doing this for a long time. Copy your phonograph records through an amp that all of us used to have onto a video tape (audio only). You now have a modern signal that's easy to get into a mac. Video tape records a high quality signal.
John

Excellent advice, John -- Now, if the VCR deck (or camcorder) you are copying to has a FIREWIRE PORT (most "digicams" do) you can then pull it into the mac digitally and not have to go through another generation of analog conversion.  Saves on the quality of the transfer.

Mike

Actually, it is even easier if you happen to own a device such as EyeTV. Just bring the audio in from the tape (use the red & white RCA cables), and use EyeTV's software to save it. Keep in mind that VCR tape and the EyeTV have greater audio quality than the original LP, so you won't lose anything. I have heard some "vinyl" lovers say you lose something, but I can't hear it.
John
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